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Ursuul

aka Darken Rahl

Global Discussions Moderator Bureaucrat
  • I live in D’Hara
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  • I am a Wizard
  • Bio Hi lads. I’m mainly a CSS expert / Portability aid on Fandom, although I occasionally moderate as a GDM too.

    I usually hang out at the Dresden Files Wiki, Inheriwiki, & the Dragon Age Wiki.

    https://dresdenfiles.fandom.com/d/f
    https://inheritance.fandom.com/d/f
    https://dragonage.fandom.com/d/f
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Greetings & salutations dear fellows, I am Ursuul. If you need anything or have any problems or questions, feel free to leave a message. I don’t bite :)


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  • I'm of a mind of merging Template:Dresden associates and Template:Marcone associates to Template:Characters (both a section after mentioned characters) - the more I think about it, the less I can justify the indipendent existance of them, and there's no real technical difficulty in doing so.

    I also think that Template:Vampires and Template:Vampire Courts should be merged, and so do Template:Faeries and Template:Faerie Courts. It's going to be more complicated to correctly assign categories, but I can try, hoping not to leave too much for you to clean up afterward. "Vampire Courts" and "Faerie Courts" being the more general navboxes should stay and can be renamed "Vampires" and "Faeries" respectively.

    What do you think?

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    • 'k. I'll try aiming to a single navbox, we'll see if we have to split in more than one. If we order entries by species, we'll get a small number of huge sections, if we go by organization, we'll have a higher number of smaller sections. And we might find out we'll need both keys.

      Gonna be a slow job.

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    • Good thing there’s nobody to hand out deadlines ;)

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  • Notice you're sometimes (Rachel and Marcy) adding references to the lede, which are amply justified. I wonder, though, whether we should rewrite both lede and article so that the refs go in the body of the article rather than in the lede. If at all possible.

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    • You don’t, I agree that the lede shouldn’t be very heavy, but even for such small things as are present you may need refs, such as for names. Theoretically you could relocate things like nicknames, age (in the case of Harry), & even full names into other sections, but there seems not to be a good reason to do so. Consider that the lede is very important for SEO, & so having all the names that a person might search for in there is important to help people find our content. Moving them out is therefore counterproductive in that sense, but also you may consider that as a reader, you want to be assured that you are reading the correct article. I know I did, when I reread Ghost Story & saw the Paula typo & wanted to make sure they were in fact the same person. Having both names in the lede lets me know immediately that this is so, but they still need references. But, sinces having references in the lede isn’t necessarily bad, I say why not?

      The Infobox is indeed the summary, but consider: wikipedia:International military intervention against ISIL.

      It is very reference-heavy, but no where in the article is it indicated that 400 RAAF personnel were deployed by Australia. That’s just in the Infobox, because while the Infobox is indeed a summary, it should also hold hard data points that might not be needed in the narrative sections, such as family members. I think there are definitely situations where an Infobox is going to have something that the article will not, & vice versa.

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    • 'K. As I said, I know nothing about SEO; I'll accept your word for it.

      As for the infobox-only information (in which case you're right, it should be referenced), I think it should be a minor detail. Whether Murphy has straight or wavy hair, this kind of minor. Not that we've ever seen her long-haired enough to know.

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  • The original link to the warden security file was inexistent, so I've used this. I was interested in finding that Karrin Murphy is three years older than Dresden, or thereabout.

    I've also found a copy of the warden security file here, which we may still want to add.

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    • Good. It'll take a bit of time, but you should get it early next week.

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    • No rush 👍🏻

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  • Feel free to delete them if you think they're not important enough. However, I believe that Wrigleyville is mentioned too many times to do safely.

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    • Oh yeah Wrigleyville definitely, I trust that your pages are good so I’ll probably look at them more closely another time.

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    • You'll be welcome. Wrigleyville will have to be padded up, though.

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  • I am quite inclined to have a page for Northerly Island, it's just mentioned in Ghost Story, but it may rate something more than a link to wikipedia.

    I wonder if we should add other mentioned locations, such as Seattle, Tacoma, Oregon, etc., to the Locations template. "Minor talents", after all, exists in Template:Magic and there's no page for it.

    Your opinion?

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    • I have no problem with there being a page about it, I was just saying that it shouldn’t be in the footer as just a section anchor. Footer should be whole pages yknow?

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    • 'k.

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  • I just couldn't resist!

    File:Tibetan-mastiff-puppy-260nw-278375468.jpg should perhaps be deleted, I'm not sure we can use it, given it comes out of shutterstock.com.

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  • Ursuul,

    given this diff, have you given a thought about the Real world category? Like Blasting rod, elements such as Staff and Ritual have been taken from the real world (they're not Butcher's invention) and adapted to the Dresden Files, that's why they were templated this way. If blasting rod should be detemplated, so should the other ones.

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    • Well, even the big ones seem already to be sectionalized. I'll be interested in following/contributing to this work. :)

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    • I’ll take a stab, but later always later coz schleep & time.

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  • After a quick glance, I believe we can merge the episode pages (mostly synopsis) and the most detailed character pages (essentially Dresden and Bob) to the main tv series page and use the leftover article pages as redirects. Actor pages can be killed, I think, being essentially "'John Smith' plays the character 'Jack Jones' in the TV series".

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  • Well, I think we have to reappraise the way magic is explained - we might have to do some judicious merges.

    Vulcanomancy is quoted verbatim in White Night and phonoturgy in Changes. Once each, but they're integral to the universe, so we can't remove the pages.

    I think we might be able to merge holomancy and verisimilomancy, holomancy being included in verisimilomancy. Holomancy is described in Changes and named in Cold Days. Verisimilomancy is named in Ghost Story, and the "One Woman Rave Spell" is used in Ghost Story, "Cold Case" and "Bombshells". But I would like to hear from you before doing so.

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    • For comics however, eventually I think imma have to force myself to read them. Idk, but it just feels wrong to write them off. Unlike the actors in a series, these are part of actual Dresden Files canon (as we see them referenced in Zoo Day). I don’t think we can give up on ’em just yet.

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    • I don't know, perhaps it's just my personal taste. Certain cases, I like fewer, bigger, pages than more, leaner, ones.

      And, you're probably right about the comics. As for the TV series, I'll look over the pages; fortunately, we don't need to decide pronto.

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  • what scripts are available here for me? The VSTF one, looks like, but not the rest.

    Actually, Find&Replace, EditConflictAlert, and WhatLinksHere, are the three I know I will find useful, wouldn't know about the others without checking them.

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    • Well, first off this JS here…
      $(function() {
          if ($('.portable-infobox').length === 0) {
              return;
          }
       
          if ($('.portable-infobox section').hasClass('pi-collapse-closed')) {
              $('.portable-infobox section').removeClass('pi-collapse-closed');
              return;
          }
      });
      …you actually don’t need it. You can just enable it in Preferences; that’s what the whole Gadgets thing is.

      In order, disregarding the ones you say you know you like:
      1. VSTFReport, when you view someone’s contributions page, displays a few links that make it easy to report that user to the VSTF for vandalism or spam or whatever they’re doing. It helps globally, & locally when Admins aren’t always reachable, but should be available for everyone. You can see if the links are present by going here.
      2. MassRedirect is a bot-tool which, as it says, let’s you quickly redirect multiple pages. Normal users cannot use it.
      3. WLHEditLinks adds edit links to WhatLinksHere. You don’t need to import it locally because it is already installed sitewide.
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    • Thanks. VSTF is already there, the others I'll wait a bit to see if they're available.

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